George’s Point of View
The first items found that were attributed to the airbus were from somewhere else. However, now a ship’s crew has recovered several bodies, luggage, etc. For all the families sake, I hope they can find everyone. It becomes ever more tragic each day a victim goes unfound.
Days tick by as searchers look for the beacon-small enough to fit in someone’s hand- lost somewhere in the Atlantic.
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FAA Standards Tested
George’s Point of View
I hope that all of St George’s licensees have been retested.
Anthony St. George was convicted and sentenced to prison on 15 counts of conspiracy and submitting false statements on Federal AviationAdministration (FAA) certifications. At the time, St. George was a designated mechanical examiner for St. George Aviation whose job was to administer FAA tests air-frame and powerplant tests to mechanics after mechanics took the prescribed class.Not only did St. George provide test answers, he skipped segments of the tests and issued certifications when the office was closed.
Grounded Planes but 31 Passengers will be IN the ground

After Monday’s ATR crash when the pilots of the UTAir flight were returning to the airport and crashed in a snowy field, with much of the world not flying on ATR 72-200 planes, you can not believe how many people today mentioned to me their opinion that these planes should just be grounded, period. Frankly, I agree.There have been questions about this kind of plane since 1994, when American Eagle Flight 4181 crashed, and killed 68 people. Though the “Anti Ice” boots were “improved” this model has a known problem with ice. A TransAsia Airways crashed due to icing in 2002. Since ice is a known problem of these planes, any failure to deal with icing is surely negligence. But of course it is too soon to tell.
There are plenty of rumors flying. (They seem to have better lift than the planes.) A Reuters article claims the black boxes indicate all engines were functioning, but there are also indications that this plane may not have been correctly or properly de-iced before takeoff, and that smoke was spotted from the engine. Not that Russian skies are particularly safe, given there were fifteen Russian crashes last year alone.
Russia is not particularly known for keen government supervision of the Russian sky or some of their crumbling airports either, for that matter, but grounding ATR 72-200 aircraft is a step in the right direction. Let’s just see if they pull aging aircraft, look at crew training or start considering safety over profits.
Even if they do, it won’t bring back the decedents.
- Air Safety | Editorial | India
Fly Keystone Cops, no, I mean Fly India
George’s Point of View
Once upon a time, there were two runways: Runway 27 and Runway 14. They crossed each other. It didn’t matter that they crossed each other because the KING of the runway (Air Traffic Control) never allowed planes in a collision course. In Air Traffic Control school, they teach that a collision course would be a very bad thing.
So one day, an Air India A310 was on Runway 27, and waiting for input from Air Traffic Control. And, simultaneously, a Jet Airways Boeing 737-800, flight was waiting on Runway 14.
Somehow, both planes started to take-off.
Air Traffic control recognized that the very bad thing was about to happen, and cancelled one of the take-offs.
Fortunately both pilots were awake, saw the what was happening and both pilots rejected takeoff.
(Fortunately, they teach that a collision course is a bad thing in Pilot school too. Nice juxtaposition, that.)
It’s a good day when no one dies from the accident that could have happened.
It’s not a happy ending yet, because it won’t be over until the investigation is over. No one died…but it remains to be seen if heads may still roll.
Thoughts on the Turkish Airlines Boeing 737-800
According to the Preliminary Dutch Safety Board Report, “The Board is of the opinion that extra attention is needed for the role of the radio altimeter when using the automatic pilot and the automatic throttle system. The Board has issued a warning for Boeing today requesting extra attention to a part of a manual for the Boeing 737, in which is stated that in case of malfunction of the radio altimeter(s), the automatic pilot and throttle system that are connected to this may not be used for approach and landing. The Board would like Boeing to consider an investigation into whether this procedure is also applicable during flight. With the exception of the malfunction of the left radio altimeter the investigators of the Dutch Safety Board have not yet found any irregularities.
One question that remains now is how Boeing is going to follow up with the reminder for pilots to pay attention. Is this going to be handled with additional training or aircraft or procedure modifications? However–Boeing has said that the autopilot system is designed so that if it senses faulty data from the captain’s altimeter on the left side, the auto-throttle is supposed to switch to the altimeter on the right. In fact, AVweb summarizes it this way: ” The autopilot initiated a power-down of the engines in preparation for landing and the airplane slowed to near stall speed. The pilots responded to the situation too late.”
It seems to us like this is more of a problem of maintenance and pilot training at Turkish Airlines. How could the pilots not have noticed flying for more than a minute with no thrust?
We are eager to see what is going to be done to prevent a repetition of catastrophe. On Wednesday Boeing listed six warning signs that can alert a pilot that something is wrong with the altimeter. Maybe they should have included a Starbucks gift certificate for that extra jolt of caffeine-fueled pilot attentiveness.
The Dutch report indicates that the faulty radio altimeter initiated a sequence of events to which the pilots responded too slowly. The thing is that being a pilot means being aware. There is no margin for error.
Plus, any time I see that an automatic system did the thinking, it makes me pause: “the automatic system – with its engines at reduced power – assumed it was in the final stages of the flight.” If the autothrust/pilot starts to do something unusual, it is the pilot’s responsibility to disconnect it and fly the aircraft manually.
Another thing that seems crucial is the black box data:
“The black box – which can register 25 hours of flying time and which, in this case, covered 8 flights- showed that this problem had occurred twice previously in a similar situation, before landing.” It is crucial in conflicting ways. When it happened before, why was there no “crash” situation? How was it averted? (Probably the pilots flew in manually.)And…if it happened before, doesn’t it make the faulty radio altimeter a “known problem” and therefore one which the carrier should have corrected before this plane ever went out again?
For those who survived, it really doesn’t matter why it happened.
The passengers–those who perished and those who were injured and those who lucked out and got away without a scrape (if there are any)–are innocents who purchased a ticket.
There’s no one on that plane who will ever board a plane again without thinking twice; some will suffer sleepless nights and develop phobias; and some have paid the ultimate price, losing their health, or their life.
Now they are owed a lot more than a refund.
Ethiopia Flight 409: Dubious Claims Circulate the Blognet
There’s a general consensus among the people who deal with terrorists that terrorists like to take credit for disasters, even when they’re not responsible for them. Ownership of violence is part of the whole extremist “psych-you-out “ ideology. To claim responsibility for an act one did not do to is to “claim” one for the malevolent gipper, to make one appear more powerful, especially when actually helpless, and/or to appease whomever one is confessing to with false collateral by churning out false confessions.
But consider this: if I say I am Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny, it does not mean I am Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny. Legally, it’s going to take more than tall talking and word of mouth to establish that claim in court. It will take heavy duty concrete proof to make that claim stand up in a court of law. The head of the Engineering Department at the BEA (France’s version of the NTSB, the Investigation and Analysis Bureau) Christophe Ménez said in an interview … that evidence shows that last month’s Ethiopian plane crash was not a result of an explosion. “The fuselage and other heavy parts, such as the engine, all sank together, and the plane’s wreckage was in close proximity, which indicates that the airliner did not explode. ”
The investigation of Ethiopia Airlines Flight 409 so far does not develop a case for terrorism having anything to do with causing the crash. But even if it were true (and we don’t think it is), the primary liability rests with the operator, Ethiopia Airlines. This is not a legal opinion, just my own opinion.
Now let’s speculate. If it were a terrorist act, it might derail a law suit against component manufacturers in the United States, but an experienced lawyer would tell us that if an act of terror downed the plane, it would not budge legal claims against Ethiopia Airlines. Under the various treaties that govern air travel, the operator has the primary responsibility for that innocent passenger who paid good money to get on that plane.
The big news services are not the source of this claim; it looks like it is coming from a blog network, so it appears to be a rumor rather than fact, or a rehash or repost of an earlier theory. There is no plausible evidence of sabotage.
But we are still hoping for more evidence, and for the families, more remains, to be discovered by the Odyssey Explorer in the ongoing marine search for definitive evidence.
The terrorism theory has already been postulated and discarded once so I don’t give much credence to it. But more than anything, I regret seeing these things crop up to stress the victims families even more. They’ve already been through too much; and the investigation is going to take a long time. They have a long way to go.
Virgin America: Trapped in Plane
LAX to JFK
No, LAX to SWF to (bus) to JFKNever heard of SWK? It’s Stewart International Airport, 90 miles N of New York. It’s the infamous airport where this Saturday 126 passengers on a Virgin America flight shared a nightmare for four to six hours on the tarmac, completed with rationed potato chips (4) rationed water (every 1/2 hour.)
On the bright side, the flight did not crash.
Diverted from NYC by weather, the 5 1/2 hour flight turned into a runway waiting room. Not all of the passengers were allowed off the plane into the airport; the flight attendants and airport personnel were getting testy. Then Jet Blue provided bus transportation to the stranded…er…trapped…er…Virgin America passengers for the 90 mile trip to JFK.
Passengers amused themselves by elaborating on their ordeal online. Much to the benefit of the travel-weary passengers, Virgin America’s CEO David Cush was one of the people who heard the online tale of woe, and is (we hear) refunding the cost of the trip plus $100 to the 126 passengers.
Cheaper than a lawsuit, I guess. I wonder if he’ll be getting them to sign anything.
